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Friday, December 12, 2008

I will have mercy upon whom I will have mercy....

UPDATED DUE TO A RECENT POST
Found here....

Amen Alan...

Mark

Regarding John Piper, please see my post from a while ago regarding "two wills" found here.
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If God were to say that he has desired to pass some sinners by and leave them in their sins, in that He will not save them by His grace, based upon His own free volition, and yet say that He has no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked, is that reasonable?

Is that inconsistent with God's nature?

I raise it, because when it comes to God's desires regarding who or (whom) rather, He desires to show mercy and to call, regenerate, justify and ultimately glorify, is He then to be presented in the gospel call, as someone who desires the salvation of all men without exception?

I mean, when we preach the gospel, based upon what we read in Scripture, are we to infer that God really has this sincere desire for the whole world to be saved, as in every single person who ever lived?

That is the question.

I know from Scripture, that God get's all of His desires. That I am certain of.

Isa 46:9:10 Remember former things from forever; for I am God, and no other is God, even none like Me, declaring the end from the beginning, and from the past things which were not done, saying, My purpose shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure;

So, if God truly desires the salvation of all men, even the reprobate, then there would truly have to be a sense that God ultimately must have unfulfilled desires, and for all eternity, given that not all men are saved, right?

This is just basic logic at it's core.

But, if we accept that grace is sheer grace, then God desiring the salvation of some, and not all, is perfectly reasonable, right?

And further, in desiring the saving of some, He has no pleasure in the destruction of the rest, is a valid point, yes?

So, God can not only have the right to command all men everywhere to repent, but also take no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked, but can also be presented as the God who does not have to desire the salvation of all, in order for the charge of "insincerity" to stick, right?

If salvation is an act of mercy and grace, then how can even the thought of "insincere" offers of salvation even be upon the table for legitimate discussion, pertaining to God's desires?

These people who fight for this sincere desire in God for everyone's salvation, do not seem to understand grace in the first place.
They also seem to think that God is under some kind of obligation to provide even the possibility of salvation for every single person or else He is unfair or insincere.

But why?

Mark

4 comments:

PuritanReformed said...

Actually, that article was by Alan Kurschner, but it's nevertheless endorsed by Dr. White.

Tartanarmy said...

So it was! Thanks Daniel, missed Alan's name there.

Mark

Anonymous said...

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Tartanarmy said...

Thank you, please stay and read when you can, although I am having a wee break at the moment, but there is a lot of posts here to read...

Mark