Just when the conversation was getting interesting and getting beyond surface level argumentation and emotion, the thread was ended.
I will tell you what I was seeing in that thread.
1/ A certain poster not only had answers from scripture which were plain, but he had historical confessions to lend credible weight and he had Calvin quotations given in context!
2/ Another poster whom I have had the misfortune of dealing with in the past had Calvin quotes out of context and with no balance to the real Calvin and his fuller views.
Sadly and tragically, Phil is on the wrong side of this debate and has been moving further and further away from reformed thought for a long time.
Anyway, the thread was a good one but sadly Phil smelled the air and decided enough for now.
Here is the thread. It is no lightweight conversation for sure!