Monday, September 29, 2008
Perserverance of the Saints.
As you may know, I had tried (unsuccessfully it seems) to debate/discuss this topic with one "Brody" a Non Calvinist who participates at Steve Gregg's forum.
I came across an interesting debate thread here from one of the Team Apologian, one Turretin Fan on the subject, and I think you may find it very helpful.
I do not think the debate is yet completed, but thus far it has been very interesting dialogue.
For me, it is evident that an "entire Biblical framework" a.k.a Calvinism, is necessary in order to exegete scripture consistently, otherwise scripture is trumped and made to be contradictory and inconsistent.
Also, in a Non Calvinist system, there is always this "philosophising" method of hermenuetics that treats the scriptures as if what God say's can be made to be diametrically opposed to what God actually promises to accomplish, hence the much ado about "hypotheticals" etc.
I also find that way of thinking to be amongst the soft Calvinists, Ameraldians and Neo-reformed that are everywhere given voice these days.
Anyways, enjoy Turretin fan as he just makes sense and provides sound Biblical answers in this debate.
See link above to go to the debate page and then scroll back through the dates and find the start.
Actually, here is a link to the start of the debate.
Then 2; 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17
18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24....thus far