Saturday, June 28, 2008

Common Attacks Against Reformed Theology

Common Attacks Against Reformed Theology
Part I ... Introduction | SAVE
Part II ... John 3:16-17 | SAVE
Part III ... Matt 23:37, 2 Pet 3:9 | SAVE
Part IV ... 1 Tim 2:4-6 | SAVE
Part V ... 1 John 2:2 | SAVE
Part VI ... John 6:35-45 | SAVE
Part VII ... Rom 8:28-30 | SAVE
Part VIII ... Rom 8:29-9:13 | SAVE
Part IX ... Rom 9:14-16 | SAVE
Part X ... Rom 9:16-21 | SAVE
Part XI ... Rom 9:18-23 | SAVE
Part XII ... Rom 9:23-24, Evangelism | SAVE

Hip hop that hits the spot!

I am not a lover of Rap music, but this artist may convert me!

A representer of these dark and ignorant days.

Here we have one sad, confused, mis-representer of this thing called Calvinism.

Has not got a clue, yet he really thinks he has something to say, enough to make videos and post them on you tube.
The scary thing is many professing Christians would agree with what this guy is saying.
What dark, dark days we live in.
Btw, I only could stomach about 4 minutes of this presentation.


Wednesday, June 25, 2008

To Hell in a handbasket....

No pulling kids from gay-friendly classes, Vancouver parents told
Allison Cross, Canwest News Service
Published: Monday, June 23, 2008

VANCOUVER - The Vancouver board of education says it plans to enforce a ministry policy that prevents parents from pulling students out of classes that deal with alternative sexuality.

A recent staff recommendation from the Vancouver board of education says parents can pull their children out of sensitive lessons in health classes because of religious or family beliefs, but can't opt their children out of gay-friendly lessons in any other classes.

The recommendation, released Friday, sets out detailed guidelines and procedures the district intends to distribute to schools.

"We're expected to do that by the (Education) ministry, so it's not something we've initiated of our own volition," said Ken Denike, a Vancouver school board trustee.

According to ministry guidelines, students can only opt out of the health portions of Health and Career Education K to 7, Health and Career Education 8 and 9, and Planning 10.

They aren't exempt from the lessons completely and must learn the material outside the classroom setting, by home instruction or self-directed studies.

They also have to prove they've learned the material.

Edward Da Vita, a spokesman for the Catholic Civil Rights League, said he would prefer parents be able to pull their children out of any class containing controversial material. "The problem now is that controversial subject matter can be brought up any time, anywhere, and there is no reasonable alternative delivery available for that," he said.

The league has long fought the policies.

The ministry guidelines stem from a contract the government signed with gay activists Murray and Peter Corren. The couple launched a human-rights case against the government, which ended the lawsuit by signing an agreement to add teachings about gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered issues to the provincial curriculum.

Education Minister Shirley Bond sent a letter to school districts in the fall of 2006, stating that parents can only remove students from the health classes they object to.

Denike said he anticipates some negative feedback from parents and the community as the issue resurfaces.

"It's a very touchy subject," he said. "It has to be handled sensitively. It's going to be difficult."

Sean Murphy, another spokesman for the Catholic league, said Vancouver parents might still be able to control which classes children attend.

"Any parent who is determined may be successful in getting an exemption," he said.

© Vancouver Sun 2008

Friday, June 20, 2008

When God's Word is Ignored

Isaiah 46:6-7 and he makes it into a god; They bow down, indeed they worship it. 7 "They lift it upon the shoulder and carry it; They set it in its place and it stands there. It does not move from its place. Though one may cry to it, it cannot answer; It cannot deliver him from his distress.

Isaiah 41:7 7 So the craftsman encourages the smelter, And he who smooths metal with the hammer encourages him who beats the anvil, Saying of the soldering, "It is good"; And he fastens it with nails, So that it will not totter.


Sunday, June 15, 2008

Second Thoughts.

Mark Driscoll.

Not everyones cup of tea it seems. Well, I have to admit, the man has a mouth that needs some kind of overhaul of the sanctifying kind.
Despite his shortcomings, I am confident he loves the Lord and seeks to serve Him.


Wednesday, June 11, 2008

Speculation, God, evil and Adam.

Lately there has been much said about the kind of trouble we can get into when trying to discuss, explain certain ideas about the origin of sin and evil, especially Pre-fall considerations explicitly.

Now, I am fully aware such a subject can push passions to produce heat rather than light. I am also fully aware that certain reformed men have at times went too far in their views, pushing scripture beyond the bounds of its immediacy regarding context and stuff. One man I love, Jonathon Edwards may be a bit guilty of going too far, particularly in trying to understand the exact nature of Pre-fall Adam and Eve, whereas someone like Calvin did not stray, and many other fine scholars exercised restraint.

But, some of you who know me, might understand that in this mamby pamby evanjellyfish age we live in, I would rather attempt to speak plainly and simply when even addressing this thorny subject.
If anything I say rubs you the wrong way, please comment and I will do my best to be clear.
I will also retract error if it is rightly pointed out, I promise!

Some get all twisted and start stuttering when pushed in this area, and that is fine. It is a difficult subject in some sense, but let me see if I can break it down a wee bit, without going beyond scripture.

The official name for this area of study would be called "Theodicy", which simply means to study the origin of evil and it's supposed problem implications for the Christian God based upon His nature.
Not really a prominant subject preached about these days, and I am talking about reformed Churches!

Theodicy (IPA: /θiːˈɒdɪsi/) (adjectival form theodicean) is a specific branch of theology and philosophy that attempts to reconcile the existence of evil or suffering in the world with the belief in an omniscient, omnipotent, and benevolent God, i.e., the problem of evil.

Here are some simple facts to contemplate. (Right off the top of my head and therefore in no particular order of importance)

1/ When God originally planned to create Men and Angels, He did so with full knowledge, plan and purpose, that evil and sin will definitely come about. That is not speculation.

2/ Considering the above point, plainly and logically tells us that the first and ultimate source for evil as a reality in creation, is God Himself. That is what even Edwards means when he says that "God in that sense" is the author of evil. That is not speculation.

3/ That does not make God evil or a "doer of evil".

God is God, and He has no Judge for whatever He does, plans and purposes. God is the highest authority, and by definition, everything God does is good and holy and right. That is not speculation.

4/ Pre-fall, Adam being perfect and "very good", does not mean "unable to sin or do evil". We know this because He did sin and do evil. That is not speculation.

5/ God plainly declares, "In the day you eat" (Gen 2:17) which presuposes the "inevitability" of the sinful action, which tells us that God planned and purposed the fall for His own plans and purposes. That is not speculation.

6/ Evil exists apart from God's own inherant goodness, meaning that evil is the result of God not restraining "good". (In that sense it is not a created thing. Think of darkness simply being the absence of light). That is not speculation.

7/ Evil is not something coming out of God, but rather is present where God wills His goodness not to be. Where God is not restraining evil, evil results. That is not speculation.

8/ The primary participants in "moral" evil (rather than say disasters and other so called acts of nature) are men and fallen angels, whom God uses as "means" to do whatsoever God desires to happen in His plans and purposes. That is not speculation. (same principal is true for disasters and other acts of nature)

9/ All men and fallen angels are active and willing participants in all "moral" evil that happens in the universe, and it is God's right alone to restrain His goodness (which resuts in evil) so that God controls that evil IN whatever way God chooses for His own ends and purposes. That is not speculation.

Incidentally, Theists affirm what is called the "benevolence of God" which is simply saying that God is essentially good. We as Christians are not saying what has come to be called "uni or omni-benevolent" meaning that God can only ever be good, make everthing good and eliminate any and all evil at all times and all places and all circumstances. No, that has no relation to what we mean by "Benevolent".

10/ No evil act commited is ever free from God's plan, decrees and purposes. No exceptions. That is not speculation.

11/ God shall rightly judge all evil acts, which are done, even though all evil acts were planned and purposed by God to be done, even before creation took place. That is not speculation.

12/ All suffering and evil that takes place in the universe is ordained by God, and is working toward the "good" of all those who love and serve Him, and by deduction, is working "bad" toward those who despise Him. That is not speculation.

13/ Ultimately, God has a "good" use for evil, and that is His perogative.
God has decided to reveal to us that we as created people, need to believe what He has said regarding His sovereignty. We are to trust Him, know that He is good and Holy and righteous in all of His ways, even if we do not understand this particular subject regarding the origin of evil in God's universe. That is not speculation.

Now, I may have just lost whatever few readers I have here, but I cannot help it. My conscience is bound to what scripture faithfully teaches, so to repeat what Pilate so long ago said, "What I have written, I have written".

Amen Mark not speculating.

For an example of speculation, consider Benny Hinn and his "Flying" Adam teaching! or What Arminians and Open Theists teach on this subject.... or What many Reformed types teach these days for that matter! (They are the ones forever using the expression of God "allowing" this, that and the next thing.

Some extra thoughts....

How could Adam be held accountable (and with him the entire human race), if he was not free to do other than he did do—if God really intended for him to do exactly as he did? With this question we come to the heart of the Reformed Theodicy. The main points are, first, that no one has ever been held accountable for what they could have thought or done, only for what they have thought or done, and for their purposes in thinking or doing it; and, second, that though both Adam and God intended that evil should come about, their purposes were distinct, God's being ultimately good, Adam's being ultimately evil.

The Reformed Theodicy boils down to the distinction of purposes between the primary agent (God) and the secondary agents (humans). While it is true that God intends to bring about evil, God's purpose is not, of itself, evil (cf. Gen. 50:20). This idea can be expressed by analogy:

Picture a man holding down a child while other men stick pieces of metal into the child's eye, all the while the child is screaming in pain, crying out for them to stop. On the surface it seems like a horrible, cruel thing these men are doing to the child. But if we add the information that the child is bleeding to death from the nasal cavity, that there is no time for anesthetic, that the man holding him down is his loving father, and that the men sticking the metal into his eye are doctors trying to save his life, then the problem of evil disappears. The evil doesn't disappear, it is still there (just ask the child!), but the problem of evil is no longer present, because the intention is good.

Of course, no analogy is perfect!

Mark, signing off.

Wednesday, June 04, 2008

New Covenant/Old Covenant Misunderstandings Part 1/3

New Covenant/Old Covenant Misunderstandings

Part 1

Many Modern Evangelicals misunderstand passages in the New Covenant with regards to the Old Covenant.. They will say something like "this is the New Covenant" "and what your saying is the Old Covenant.." "Christ changed that.." etc..

I would like to gather verses that are commonly misunderstood and add them with the old covenant passage that shows it existed under old covenant economy..

Romans 12:20: Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

Proverbs 25:21,22: 21: If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink: For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee.

Hebrew 10:30: For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

Deuteronomy 32:35: To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

Romans 11:9-10: And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.

Psalm 69:22-23: Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake.

Hebrews 13:14: For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.

Hebrews 10:10: For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

Jeremiah 31:33: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts;

Psalm 37:31: The law of his God is in his heart; His steps do not slip

Jeremiah 31:34: And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD:

Psalm 9:10: And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, LORD, hast not forsaken them that seek thee.

Jeremiah 31:34c: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Psalm 32:1, 2: How blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered! How blessed is the name to whom the Lord does not impute iniquity, and in whose spirit is no deceit!

Deu 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no longer stubborn.

Romans 2:28-29 For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. 29 But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God.

Gen 17:7 And I will establish my covenant between me and you and your offspring after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your offspring after you.
Acts 2:38-39 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”

Galations 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Leviticus 19:18 - You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the Lord.

Matthew 10:34-36 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to 'set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law'; "and 'a man's enemies will be those of his own household.'

Micah 7:5-6 "Do not trust in a friend; Do not put your confidence in a companion; Guard the doors of your mouth From her who lies in your bosom. For son dishonors father, Daughter rises against her mother, Daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; A man's enemies are the men of his own household."

Zech.816 These are the things that ye shall do; Speak ye every man the truth to his neighbour; execute the judgment of truth and peace in your gates:

17And let none of you imagine evil in your hearts against his neighbour; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the LORD.

Eph 4:

23And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

24And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

25Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.

26Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

LEV 19
2Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the LORD your God am holy

1pet 1: 15But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;

16Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy

Ok, a few more passages!


Old testament titles and attributes of Israel which are,
In the new testament, referred to the Christian church


A. Israel Is Beloved Of God
Exo. 15:13 / Deu.33:3 / Ezr.3:11
B. Disobedient Israel Is Not Beloved Of God
Lev. 26:28. 30 / Jer. 12:8 / Jer. 16:5 / Hos. 9:l5 / Amo. 9:7 / Mat. 3:7 / Philip. 3:2 /
1 Th. 2:14-16 / Tit. 1:10
C. The Christians Are Beloved Of God
Rom. 1:7,9,25 / Eph. 5:1 / Col. 3:12 / Jo. 3:1 / 2 The. 2:13 / Rev. 1:4-6


A. lsraelites Are The Children Of God
Exo. 4:22 / Den. 14:1 / Isa. 1:2,4 / Isa. 63:8 / Jer. 31:9 / Hos. 11:1
B. Disobedient Israelites Are Not The Children Of God
Deu. 32:5 / John 8:39, 42, 44
C. The Christians Are The Children Of God
John. 1:12, 11:52 / Rom. 8:14,16 / 2 Cor. 6:18 / Gal. 3:26 / Gal. 4:5, 6, 7 /
Philip. 2:15 / 1 Jo. 3:1


A. Israel Is The Field Of God
Jer. 12:10
B. The Christians Are The Field Of God
I Cor. 3:9


A. Israel Is The Flock Of God And Of The Messiah
Psa.78:52 / Psa.80:1 / Isa.40:ll / Jer.23:1, 2 ,3 / Jer.31:I0 / Eze. 34:12, 15, 16 /
Mic. 5:4 / Zec. 10:3
B. The Christians Are The Flock Of God And Of The Messiah
John 10:14, 16 / Heb. 13:20 / 1 Pe. 2:25 / 1 Pe. 5:2, 3


A. Israel Is The House Of God
Num. 12:7
B. The Christians Are The House Of God
I Tim. 3:15 / Heb. 3:2, 5, 6 / Heb. 10:21 / 1 Pe. 4:17